blaurebell wrote:outcast wrote:Te escribo en español porque necesito practicar, estoy mal mal. Me acordaba en mi cabeza del verbo "to claim", "behaupten", pero ni por casualidad asomaba el término en castellano... lo he tenido que buscar y en alemán porque "claim" en inglés tiene varios significados. Grave situación.
Hah, happens to me too! I have the same situation with German occasionally and then I start to use very strange words that are closer to whatever the word in English would be. I sound super silly sometimes
And I better won't torture you with my rusty Spanish writing, it's enough for chatting about superficial stuff, but not politics
You know, this is one of those topics where people are likely to clash, even in Argentina people were split pretty much 50 50 and the current government won by very little. One man's far left propaganda is somewhat centre-left for another. As someone who is used to good old soviet propaganda, their TV education initiatives seemed mild centre-left at most. It's all a matter of degree. One thing is for sure: What the previous government built and tried to do for the country was destroyed within a few months. It was atrocious to watch and my mother in law was basically crying every day. My husband stopped watching the news and turned off Facebook. He wouldn't have been able to work otherwise because he got super angry about what was happening. Among our friends several people lost their jobs due to being supporters of the previous government on Facebook - I don't know what to call that but it comes damn close to political persecution. Those who kept their jobs did so mainly because there was no one else to do it. Two of our friends found themselves in a situation where they were fired and then rehired because it turned out that they were the only qualified people left in their entire department! And still they have all very precarious contract situations now and university funding is half frozen. Our own plans of moving there fell apart because of the precarious situation right now at the universities. Last time we visited the country in April there were anti-riot barriers in front of the house of government and the whole atmosphere was just so ... bitter. It was the opposite of what it was like the year before. We're not travelling there this year ... too depressing.
I suppose I can only have a very biased opinion, since I'm basically stuck in the wrong country because of "these people". I guess that's what Latin America will always be like, always precarious. It's one of the few places where real change is still possible, but of course nobody says that things always change for the better.
I am one of those few people (sadly), that can discuss politics, religion, and science without trying to strangle those who disagree. These days I feel people everywhere are less tolerant that in the past. I think the internet, for all the positives it brings when used the right way, has had a huge impact in fanning the flames of extremism and overly polarized views, with all the half-truth and colored information out there.
Personally, I am on a basic level a Generación del 80 type, which you may have learned about if you have read some Argentine history. Similar to what Europeans or North Americans would call a "laissez-faire" or "libertarian", when it comes to economics. But the 80tistas were not straight classic liberaritarians, they believed in fully funded public education, which at the time was rather unusual in the world, and also free public medicine. Conversely, however, they had no qualms of using force to suppress any dissent and revolt, and were fully in ideological agreement with the general winds in Europe, Australia, and North America at the time, of promoting only "white" European immigration and limiting all others, because of the nauseating views too many had at that time in the ethnically European countries at the time. I part ways with them on those last two and a few other areas.
Post-modern 80s believe in economic matters there should be swift trade, open capital, and lose job markets, because we truly believe the country falls into periods of high unemployment is because "obsolete" jobs are protected too long, build up the inefficiency, and when the government is cash strapped and no longer can protect the jobs, the jobs are destroyed at once and it causes joblessness to rise all at once and sends the country's economy to a death spiral. When jobs, capital, and trade are mostly free, adjustments like this are more gradual and people and the economy can adapt over a longer period of time. Of course people can disagree with this philosophy.
It is "post-modern", because we believe in fully funded military, education, medicine, and police, which is more left-leaning than conservatives. A citizen should have the right to be cured from ilness, access to an education, be protected from foreign threats, and be safe from criminals at home. When those conditions are met, people should flourish and thus provide capital, taxes, labor, and innovation to the economy. And in social ideology we are totally liberalist: pro-Gay rights, polygamy legalization, pro-immigration (from anywhere), drug legalization, abortion legalization, and for Animal Sentience charter rights. We are for drug rehab centers and for resocialization centers first time criminal offenders and no prison time, but severe harsh penalties for repeat criminals. All these education, health, military, and drug and crime programs would be funded because the economy would be so liberalized we could tax trade, consumption,and income, and also save so all the money spent on drug wars, abortion crack-downs, and a huge government bureaucracy on the economic side, which really leads to more corruption and lower tax revenue in the end, and lower economic activity.
So my ideology is quite bizarre and no one agrees with me too much lol. And I am always open to change in views if an argument is persuasive and cogent.
So from where I stand, the good and bad policies from Kirchner have been swapped for the bad and good policies of Macri... net zero for me, since economic policy is more sane now but as you said, some of the content has been drastically threatened.