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I've always thought that once a person is a solid B2, then s/he should eliminate their usage of materials meant for learners and move to using only native materials (books, tv, movies, single language dictionaries, etc). Does your experience agree? At what point do you think a language learner should make the switch to using only materials meant for native speakers of the language they're learning?
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Re: Move to using only native materials
Depends on the language and availability but there is not reason for not using the tools available. I intend to continue to look at reference material, workbooks, etc as I move to C1. Yes, I certainly focus more on native material but I don't adhere to a rule where I have to only use native material.
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LeCon wrote:I think once you're past the basics - pronunciation, basic grammar like pronouns/gender etc you should dive straight in and never look back. So A1/2 for me.
It's time to throw out all this stuff (and the other bookcases too) !!!
For me, that's would be like learning to box with two hands tied behind my back. If it works for you, that's great.
I use an electronic dictionary every day.
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AML wrote:I've always thought that once a person is a solid B2, then s/he should eliminate their usage of materials meant for learners and move to using only native materials (books, tv, movies, single language dictionaries, etc). Does your experience agree? At what point do you think a language learner should make the switch to using only materials meant for native speakers of the language they're learning?
In case with dictionaries it is not always so easy to stop use them. If you need to know, for example, the name of some plant, it will be hard to figure out from an explanation in monolingual dictionary.
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Re: Move to using only native materials
AML wrote:I've always thought that once a person is a solid B2, then s/he should eliminate their usage of materials meant for learners and move to using only native materials (books, tv, movies, single language dictionaries, etc). Does your experience agree? At what point do you think a language learner should make the switch to using only materials meant for native speakers of the language they're learning?
My thinking is that once a person is a solid B2 the vast majority of their input should be native material but material-for-learners may still useful for specific tasks such as shadowing or learning idioms (among others). If the materials-for-learners help you to address a deficiency more efficiently or more easily than the native material, why not? Of course, if you find the use of materials-for-learns demotivating or extremely boring, don't use them!
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I would neither "eliminate" something potentially useful nor wait till I'm ready to "start" using native materials.
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reineke wrote:I would neither "eliminate" something potentially useful nor wait till I'm ready to "start" using native materials.
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zenmonkey wrote:LeCon wrote:I think once you're past the basics - pronunciation, basic grammar like pronouns/gender etc you should dive straight in and never look back. So A1/2 for me.
It's time to throw out all this stuff (and the other bookcases too) !!!
For me, that's would be like learning to box with two hands tied behind my back. If it works for you, that's great.
I use an electronic dictionary every day.
That is quite beautiful. Even if it were all useless (which obviously is far from the case), it would be worth keeping that just for the aesthetic aspect.
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Grammar books that target common problem areas are very helpful. Some, but not all, of them are written only in the target language and are often aimed at native speakers of a given language.
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I think there's probably always a place for L1 -> L2 or L2 -> L1 resources. I think that the ratio should probably change as one begins to become more and more fluent. But even if someone does have a C2 level doesn't mean using a bilingual resource is bad. In fact, it may be way more useful to you than a monolingual one.
On the other hand, a bilingual resource might give you an answer in your native language that you do not understand either.
On the other hand, a bilingual resource might give you an answer in your native language that you do not understand either.
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