Learning to Listen and Listening to Learn

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DaveBee
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Re: Learning to Listen and Listening to Learn

Postby DaveBee » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:35 am

reineke wrote:Dictation is similar to transcription. You'll find these exercises and plenty of vocabulary tips in Paul Nation's book about language learning (link below). In order to complete dictation or transcription exercises the learner needs to be able to capture large language chunks in his working memory and render them word by word in writing. Needless to say, in order to do that the learner needs to be able to extricate words from a stream of speech. If we were to try boosting this process, we could take a look at specific approaches, tools, or adapted materials.

HPVT - High Variability Phonetic Training

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=328

Slowed down speech - an umbrella term...

https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... own+speech

SRS?

Paul Nation's page. Includes a free book:
What you need to know to learn a foreign language.The book includes some common sense advice and suggestions.
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/lals/about/staff/paul-nation
I've just skimmed through Mr Nation's book, thanks for the link.

He seems to be quite keen on 1. flash cards, 2. repetition.

The repetition angle is a one I'm going to pursue. I've just finished reading Pride and Prejudice, after watching the (dubbed) mini-series, so the audio-book is now at the top of my to-do list! :-)
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aaleks
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Re: Learning to Listen and Listening to Learn

Postby aaleks » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:05 am

Arnaud wrote:
Ani wrote:
DaveBee wrote:Dictation seems to be a significant part of french children's french language education. Wouldn't that be a practical method for self-study of listening skills?


In my time, the dictations were not prepared in advance: it was "today, dictation: open your notebook and write...", and you wrote during 1/4 hour.

In Russia, when I was a kid, we usually were writing a dictation during a whole lesson (about 40-45 min).
And, yes, the purpose of it was to check orthography and punctuation.

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Beside dictations, there was also such thing as "Изложение". I don’t know how it should be called in English, maybe a narration. It looked like this: some story had been read three times by a teacher and after that we were supposed to write down the story (what we had memorized) as precisely as possible. I don’t sure if it might somehow help with listening, but who knows.
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